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Savings Advisor
Join Date: Jul 2006
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I'm sure most of you have noticed that the majoriy of female inmates have commited fairly innocuous crimes. Granted, there are a few female gangbangers that do commit violent crimes, of course. But look at the top female-initiated crimes...<br /><br />1) Drug Possession (usually at the expense their male partner)<br />2) Self-Defense (I think America's self-defense laws are rediculous)<br />3) Tax Dues (from single-parent mothers)<br /><br />And then to top it off, most women are sexually abused in prison by male guards and other inmates. <br /><br />Do you think there should be an alternative to dealing with non-violent crimes? Perhaps even rehab?<br />I guess I'm the only one that watched the news this morning. lol.<br /><br />Look: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4373253.stm<br />http://www.azcentral.com/specials/special21/articles/1018prisonwomen18.html<br />
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Greenhorn
Join Date: Oct 2007
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i think some of these women, especially the single mothers with mouths to feed should be allowed to their time through community service and home monitoring.
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Greenhorn
Join Date: Jul 2006
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First of all, many females are initially send to jail because of drug possession even though they have committed other, more serious crimes. I would have to see those statistics to believe them, I think they are skewed.
The cops try to catch them on any crime they can once they get to know a girl is committing crimes or people have filed reports accusing her of being a suspect. My friend's ex-girlfriend broke into our house, tore the place apart, and charged $40,000 on his credit cards. She also committed forgery for other people, as well. She wasn't able to be caught except, the police knew her, and got her for jaywalking on a red light, gave her a ticket, and also found smoking paraphernalia on her. She is in jail for forgery for other victims in addition to drug possession, but she was never caught for breaking into our house. My point is, those statistics are seriously skewed. Cops catch known criminals on minor charges, then pin them with bigger charges if possible. |
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Greenhorn
Join Date: Jul 2006
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I disagree with your premises that:
1) Drug possession is "usually at the expense of their male partner." Cite your source; this is an outlandish allegation. 2) There is no crime of "self-defense." One either commits battery or one does not. Self-defense is a DEFENSE to battery; not a crime. Again, if you're claiming that female battery convictions mostly stem from self-defense...cite your source. 3) Tax dues? Who's jailing single mothers for tax debts? Please, point me to a source on this! And then there's the most outlandish: "most women" being sexually abused by male guards? I'm sure it happens, but I'm equally sure that it's far from "most." Nonviolent crimes are often dealt with by non-custodial punishment. Are you honestly advocating special treatment for those with a womb? Your wild assertions are unsupported by your sources. |
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Greenhorn
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Some people learn best when they learn the hard way, and sometimes the "hard way" is best so that they won't want to commit that crime again. But I do think they should try to rehab mothers that have children because it's their children that suffer for their parents' mistakes which is a very sad fact!
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Piggy Bank
Join Date: Jul 2006
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i don't think you are going to persuade a desperately poor person to stop stealing by imprisoning them - whatever their sex.
i also don't think you are going to help a junkie kick his/her habit by sending them somewhere where drugs are the only entertainment (and in many cases even cheaper than on the outside). i think there are things badly wrong with the prison programme on both sides of the atlantic (though not necessarily the same things). the inequities in the system probably hit women harder than they hit men. but i think a direct address to the inequities is going to work better than one hazed around gender issues. (a lot of men are also sexually abused in prison). |
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Greenhorn
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Absolutely.
Hello from The UK. It costs on average £4,000 per week to maintain one prisoner here in the UK. We have the highest number of incarcerated people in Europe. Begs the question.I visit 2 prisons over here. Many of the folk inside are there for misdemeanors which if the social infra structure was working here, we could deal with outside of prison. The youth offending teams here do their best but they are sorely underfunded. The probation service tries hard but also suffers from lack of funds. Until government realises that to appease the situation, they must invest , our prison population will continue to grow. |
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Piggy Bank
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Wow, you make it sound like women have no responsibility for being in prison. Blame men for everything.
1) Blame it on men 2) Blame it on men- if women didn't have to protect themselves it wouldn't happen 3) Blame men- since she is a single parent the man left her 4) Blame men- once again blaming male guards. If a man stated the same things about women, they would have had this question reported. |
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Piggy Bank
Join Date: Jul 2006
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they trust the untrusted
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Greenhorn
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Whether in prison or outside, most of them are a drain on societies resources. So who cares? Better put them in prison where they are in control regarding unnecessary expenditure on nail polish, mascara, tasty food and stuff like that.
If people thought they were an asset and not a liability, they will not be in prison. What should one think? The judicial system and the people of America are all dumb and waiting for suggestions like this? These issues are all thought many times over. |
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