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highlander · 10-31-2007, 02:17 PM

look i have an open question already the question is (why is hate and racism scaliting against latinos?)and i'm getting a lot of answers most of them are good intelligent answers but some are stupid and ignorant.the classic answer is i don't hate latinos i just hate the illegal ones.how are you gonna know i'm legal or illegal that to me is absurd.the other one is (people should come here legally)how in hell they are gonna do that if it's almost impossible to that.why don't you try changing your laws don't make it so hard for people to come here legally.congress is killing every law that has to do with legalizing latinos.congress are the ones to blame not us.people say that undocumented are the ones getting welfare or they don't pay taxes.that's not true in order for you to get welfare you nee to have a valid social security #.i know people who are here illegally who make their taxes every year they end up getting no money back insted they have to pay.<br />

Max · 10-31-2007, 02:17 PM

thats why i stay neutral to the whole situation.

and there are MANY illegals in this country who are from Europe, West Indies, Asia, Africa!!

Max · 10-31-2007, 02:17 PM

Some truth in there. Hard to read though. I don't hate anyone and I think most would agree.

Eriilopmasa · 10-31-2007, 02:17 PM

How do they pay their taxes if they don't have a valid Social Security number?
I don't hate Mexicans or people from any other country simply because they are from a different country. It's called illegal immigration because these people are breaking the law.

Mexico is not a poor country, the laws of Mexico protect the rich at the expense of the poor. Maybe the people of Mexico should try and change their laws.

Max · 10-31-2007, 02:17 PM

Heck, I could care less, if folks want to work more power to them. We have a lot of U.S. citizens who won't get off their recliners playing video games unless they get paid $$$ to flip burgers.

I do care however that the border is very porous and it is a security concern for EVERYONE in the U.S. no matter how a person got here!

wiezly · 10-31-2007, 02:17 PM

People should come here legally... I don't like people who break the law... simple as that!

saimon · 10-31-2007, 02:17 PM

Jose, as a fellow Latino, your open question offends me. I feel that it is doing nothing but pandering to the "Victim Culture". Until we as a race move as far away from that culture as possible we have no hope of achieving true equality.

So some jackass calls you a spic, big deal. Did it really hurt that bad? No. So just keep on doing your own thing, get ahead in life on your own merits, live well and teach your children the right values.

No body owes you anything and you can't expect anyone to solve the problems in the Latino community but Latinos.

Additionally, as a natural born citizen of this country, whose great grand parents came here legally and worked hard to assimilate into the American way of life, culture and society, I feel that we should kick all illegal Latinos out, along with anyone from any other race/country.

Sorry, but those Latinos who come here illegally are part of the problem. First, they are largely responsible for the perception that all Latinos are illegal and don't speak English. Secondly, by definition, illegal immigrants are CRIMINALS!!

Latinos that come here illegally and refuse to learn the language, adopt the culture and espouse the political and societal norms disrespect and degrade the hard work of those Latino families that DID come here legally and ARE hard working, honest Americans.

Those laws that congress is killing to keep illegals illegal are BS and shouldn't be passed.

Those illegals are causing a large portion of the problems with and in our Latino culture.

You stand there and try to speak out against racial injustice and inequality, but do nothing to address the REAL issues in our communities. You'd rather parrot the "Victim Culture's" talking points and be pissed off. Why not start doing something about the real problems. Why not stand up and vow to live a good life, vow to get to a better life through hard work and sacrifice, vow to pass down good and decent values, ethics and morals to your children? Why not stand up against the self fulfilling cycles of doom and despair in our neighborhoods?

Until you do, you'll only continue to be part of the problem.

saimon · 10-31-2007, 02:17 PM

Bullsh1t. You cannot have a valid social security number if you are not an American citizen or legal immigrant. Without a valid social security number you cannot pay income taxes. If these people are paying income taxes, their employers are keeping that money because the employer is certainly not going to send tax money to the government that is associated with an individual who has a bogus social security number and, that's pure profit to the employer.

If your friends have social security numbers, they are bogus and your friends are guilty of identity theft.

As to us changing our laws, thanks, but we'll change our laws on the advice, consent and request of the American people, not those who are not citizens and so have no say in our laws and how they're written. ALL countries have strict immigration laws including Mexico. Don't believe it? Look them up. You've got a little research to do.

alien · 10-31-2007, 02:17 PM

If you don't like the way our system works then stay home and change your own country. We like ours just the way it is. Illegal is Illegal and WE Elected our Congressional Leaders to represent US Not U. You obviously don't understand nor respect what we have, you just want more for yourself without having to earn it. Our people fought and died to protect what we have. How did you help in WW1? How about WW2? The Cold War against the spread of communism? Ooooh I bet the Soviets were shaking in their boots!
Yet you send gangs across our border and wage your little territorial gang wars in our cities were the "territory" isn't yours to dispute. Clean up your own house!
Learn to provide for the self sufficiency of your own country!
You have resources and claim to be hard working people but you run away from your problems to live off your neighbors.
You claim as rights things we view as privileges. You have it better off here than in your own country and yet you greedily Demand More! Grow up!
People here Illegally, From Any Country, have worn out their welcome.

10-31-2007, 02:17 PM	#11
highlander Greenhorn Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 6	why don't you inform yourself before giving an opinion against immigration? look i have an open question already the question is (why is hate and racism scaliting against latinos?)and i'm getting a lot of answers most of them are good intelligent answers but some are stupid and ignorant.the classic answer is i don't hate latinos i just hate the illegal ones.how are you gonna know i'm legal or illegal that to me is absurd.the other one is (people should come here legally)how in hell they are gonna do that if it's almost impossible to that.why don't you try changing your laws don't make it so hard for people to come here legally.congress is killing every law that has to do with legalizing latinos.congress are the ones to blame not us.people say that undocumented are the ones getting welfare or they don't pay taxes.that's not true in order for you to get welfare you nee to have a valid social security #.i know people who are here illegally who make their taxes every year they end up getting no money back insted they have to pay.<br />

10-31-2007, 02:17 PM	#12
Max Piggy Bank Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 67 Rep Power: 6	why don't you inform yourself before giving an opinion against immigration? thats why i stay neutral to the whole situation. and there are MANY illegals in this country who are from Europe, West Indies, Asia, Africa!!

10-31-2007, 02:17 PM	#13
Max Piggy Bank Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 67 Rep Power: 6	why don't you inform yourself before giving an opinion against immigration? Some truth in there. Hard to read though. I don't hate anyone and I think most would agree.

10-31-2007, 02:17 PM	#14
Eriilopmasa Greenhorn Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 42 Rep Power: 5	why don't you inform yourself before giving an opinion against immigration? How do they pay their taxes if they don't have a valid Social Security number? I don't hate Mexicans or people from any other country simply because they are from a different country. It's called illegal immigration because these people are breaking the law. Mexico is not a poor country, the laws of Mexico protect the rich at the expense of the poor. Maybe the people of Mexico should try and change their laws.

10-31-2007, 02:17 PM	#15
Max Piggy Bank Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 67 Rep Power: 6	why don't you inform yourself before giving an opinion against immigration? Heck, I could care less, if folks want to work more power to them. We have a lot of U.S. citizens who won't get off their recliners playing video games unless they get paid $$$ to flip burgers. I do care however that the border is very porous and it is a security concern for EVERYONE in the U.S. no matter how a person got here!

10-31-2007, 02:17 PM	#16
wiezly Greenhorn Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 30 Rep Power: 6	why don't you inform yourself before giving an opinion against immigration? People should come here legally... I don't like people who break the law... simple as that!

10-31-2007, 02:17 PM	#17
saimon Greenhorn Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 6	why don't you inform yourself before giving an opinion against immigration? Jose, as a fellow Latino, your open question offends me. I feel that it is doing nothing but pandering to the "Victim Culture". Until we as a race move as far away from that culture as possible we have no hope of achieving true equality. So some jackass calls you a spic, big deal. Did it really hurt that bad? No. So just keep on doing your own thing, get ahead in life on your own merits, live well and teach your children the right values. No body owes you anything and you can't expect anyone to solve the problems in the Latino community but Latinos. Additionally, as a natural born citizen of this country, whose great grand parents came here legally and worked hard to assimilate into the American way of life, culture and society, I feel that we should kick all illegal Latinos out, along with anyone from any other race/country. Sorry, but those Latinos who come here illegally are part of the problem. First, they are largely responsible for the perception that all Latinos are illegal and don't speak English. Secondly, by definition, illegal immigrants are CRIMINALS!! Latinos that come here illegally and refuse to learn the language, adopt the culture and espouse the political and societal norms disrespect and degrade the hard work of those Latino families that DID come here legally and ARE hard working, honest Americans. Those laws that congress is killing to keep illegals illegal are BS and shouldn't be passed. Those illegals are causing a large portion of the problems with and in our Latino culture. You stand there and try to speak out against racial injustice and inequality, but do nothing to address the REAL issues in our communities. You'd rather parrot the "Victim Culture's" talking points and be pissed off. Why not start doing something about the real problems. Why not stand up and vow to live a good life, vow to get to a better life through hard work and sacrifice, vow to pass down good and decent values, ethics and morals to your children? Why not stand up against the self fulfilling cycles of doom and despair in our neighborhoods? Until you do, you'll only continue to be part of the problem.

10-31-2007, 02:17 PM	#19
alien Piggy Bank Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 63 Rep Power: 6	why don't you inform yourself before giving an opinion against immigration? If you don't like the way our system works then stay home and change your own country. We like ours just the way it is. Illegal is Illegal and WE Elected our Congressional Leaders to represent US Not U. You obviously don't understand nor respect what we have, you just want more for yourself without having to earn it. Our people fought and died to protect what we have. How did you help in WW1? How about WW2? The Cold War against the spread of communism? Ooooh I bet the Soviets were shaking in their boots! Yet you send gangs across our border and wage your little territorial gang wars in our cities were the "territory" isn't yours to dispute. Clean up your own house! Learn to provide for the self sufficiency of your own country! You have resources and claim to be hard working people but you run away from your problems to live off your neighbors. You claim as rights things we view as privileges. You have it better off here than in your own country and yet you greedily Demand More! Grow up! People here Illegally, From Any Country, have worn out their welcome.

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