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200pips · 10-31-2007, 02:17 PM

Maybe if Mexico wasn't so corrupt they wouldn't want to leave. Instead of running away from the problems in Mexico, why don't they try to solve them. People do still vote down there don't they. Obviously get someone in office to change the country around.

I just can't stand when people that come here still support Mexico more then the US.

Eriilopmasa · 10-31-2007, 02:17 PM

i know it must suck in Mexico. If i lived there i would probably come to the US illegally as well (since its so easy to do so).

sorry, i don't want to make it easier for anyone to immigrate to the US. we have too many poor, unskilled American citizens already. please try and fix your own country and we will continue to try and do the same.

thanks,
America

saimon · 10-31-2007, 02:17 PM

See, right there in your first sentence you implied that those who oppose illegal immigration hate latinos.

That is not the case. A vast majority of american citizens RESENT (not hate) latino illegals not because of their race but because of their behavior and refusal to assimilate into the country they have taken up residence in.

Instead they demand things be handed to them, desecrate the American flag while waving theirs, I could go on and on.

You want to know when and why the resentment (NOT HATE) towards illegals started?

I'll tell you:

the resentment started when :

The crime rate when up by your cherished gangs.

Your unlicensed, uninsured drivers started killing our citizens

You ruined our neighborhoods by moving in, parking your old skeletons of cars, throwing garbage and empty beer cans all over the sidewalks where our children use to play.

When you ruined our quiet enjoyment of our homes, by playing your ranchero music so loud that the whole block can hear it. And when asked to turn it down you swore at my wife.

It started when you refuse to enter our country here legally, and cause me, my family to work extra hours to pay our taxes to support you.

It started when we saw that you were receiving free medical care, when we are not able to get it because we cannot earn enough money to pay for it.

It started when we see that you stand in line in front of us at Safeway, purchase food with federal funds that I paid for, but I cannot afford all the food you are getting for free.

It started when you stand outside the Home Depot, and work for 8 dollars an hour, while my neighbor who is a contractor, has to pay for insurance, employee taxes, social security, health plans, city permits, and you just take the cash and cut his business out of the picture.

It started when my child get substandard education because the schools allocate money because you are too lazy to learn the language that is in this country.

It started when I have to press one, to speak to someone that I cannot understand.

It started when you got drunk, and ran over a family and killed them, when you were without a license, insurance and then you ran back to your country.

It started when my children started getting exposed to diseases that were no longer active in the US, but came back with you.

I do not hate any race, but I resent illegal latinos because of their behavior.

I do not see any illegal Irish, Chinese, Japanese, Hindu, Pakistani, Canadian, or Portugese carrying on in this manner...know why?

Because they are working to blend in to the melting pot we call America, not knock it off its burner.

'Nuff Said

chicago_bull · 10-31-2007, 02:17 PM

illegals are not immigrants. Also, since so many legal latinos support the illegals, I have no use for either group.

Vietleeurorse · 10-31-2007, 02:17 PM

Most of us are very well informed. Just because you do not understand what we are saying does not mean we are incorrect in our opinions. Yes, it can be difficult to immigrate, as it should be, this insures that only good, honest, law abiding people that want to become US citizens are allowed admittance. Peace

chicago_bull · 10-31-2007, 02:17 PM

Because some do not realize that
even the USA has got some history.

chicago_bull · 10-31-2007, 02:17 PM

You sound a bit racist to me. With referring to only latinos all the time. You're not a member of La Raza by chance are you?

taxguru · 10-31-2007, 02:17 PM

because hate comes from ignorance not being well informed...

wiezly · 10-31-2007, 02:17 PM

I've lived in areas of America where we are bombarded with illegals my whole life. I think maybe it's YOU who need to inform yourself. Legal immigration is fine, and good for America. Illegal trespassing is NOT.

Vitovt · 10-31-2007, 02:17 PM

Born here, legal or not, if you knew anything about our immigration problem, you would not have the audacity to say we have to change OUR immigration laws. Until the sell-outs got involved, our immigration level was approximately 175,000 per year. Our present immigration level is over one MILLION LEGAL immigrants per year, and has been so, for quite some time. So much for it not being easy for people to come to this country legally, and stay. (HMMM. Where else in the world lets people come and stay, in those numbers or anything close to them?)

Because of our obligations to the LEGAL IMMIGRANTS WE HAVE INVITED TO STAY, our natural resources and finances are stretched beyond anything we have ever known in this , and especially, ANY OTHER country. For instance, the state of California (which has no water) is OBLIGATED IN PERPETUITY (look the word up--it means FOREVER) to build ONE NEW SCHOOL PER DAY, just to take care of the expected population of new LEGAL aliens' children and grandchildren, etc.,etc.. it is already legally required to provide for.

Further bad news shows that, thanks to our country's citizens' interests and environment being put up for sale by the pols and suits, not only are US citizens and LEGAL aliens now at DEAD-HEAT numbers (almost even in our country): We have to add the number of ILLEGALS who are here, and the repercussions of their presence upon our resources and environment, AND their confused, INVITED relatives and friends, who shout in the street that Uncle Sam is not a good enough host, as they dine at our table.
Don't pull out the old, "they're just doing work you don't want to do" card.
If it weren't for the fact I had seventeen uninvited , hidden guests in my attic, with the assistance of some of their invited-guest relatives, I wouldn't have had to build such a huge sewage system, in the first place.

My heart aches for the immigrant fleeing unfair treatment, but, immigration drains the best of a country, and does nothing to stop the problems countries face. We can't take in everyone in the world, as hard as we have tried to, in the past thirty years, but stop bashing us. It is not hatred that drives us, but the audacity of those who scream to let the thievery continue, the instinct of self-preservation, the right and holy obligation to protect or dwindling resources, which belong to the children who are this country's citizens and natives, to care for, and our own future, to which you and your kind do not seem to think we are entitled .

10-31-2007, 02:17 PM	#1
200pips Piggy Bank Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 54 Rep Power: 6	why don't you inform yourself before giving an opinion against immigration? Maybe if Mexico wasn't so corrupt they wouldn't want to leave. Instead of running away from the problems in Mexico, why don't they try to solve them. People do still vote down there don't they. Obviously get someone in office to change the country around. I just can't stand when people that come here still support Mexico more then the US.

10-31-2007, 02:17 PM	#2
Eriilopmasa Greenhorn Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 42 Rep Power: 5	why don't you inform yourself before giving an opinion against immigration? i know it must suck in Mexico. If i lived there i would probably come to the US illegally as well (since its so easy to do so). sorry, i don't want to make it easier for anyone to immigrate to the US. we have too many poor, unskilled American citizens already. please try and fix your own country and we will continue to try and do the same. thanks, America

10-31-2007, 02:17 PM	#3
saimon Greenhorn Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 6	why don't you inform yourself before giving an opinion against immigration? See, right there in your first sentence you implied that those who oppose illegal immigration hate latinos. That is not the case. A vast majority of american citizens RESENT (not hate) latino illegals not because of their race but because of their behavior and refusal to assimilate into the country they have taken up residence in. Instead they demand things be handed to them, desecrate the American flag while waving theirs, I could go on and on. You want to know when and why the resentment (NOT HATE) towards illegals started? I'll tell you: the resentment started when : The crime rate when up by your cherished gangs. Your unlicensed, uninsured drivers started killing our citizens You ruined our neighborhoods by moving in, parking your old skeletons of cars, throwing garbage and empty beer cans all over the sidewalks where our children use to play. When you ruined our quiet enjoyment of our homes, by playing your ranchero music so loud that the whole block can hear it. And when asked to turn it down you swore at my wife. It started when you refuse to enter our country here legally, and cause me, my family to work extra hours to pay our taxes to support you. It started when we saw that you were receiving free medical care, when we are not able to get it because we cannot earn enough money to pay for it. It started when we see that you stand in line in front of us at Safeway, purchase food with federal funds that I paid for, but I cannot afford all the food you are getting for free. It started when you stand outside the Home Depot, and work for 8 dollars an hour, while my neighbor who is a contractor, has to pay for insurance, employee taxes, social security, health plans, city permits, and you just take the cash and cut his business out of the picture. It started when my child get substandard education because the schools allocate money because you are too lazy to learn the language that is in this country. It started when I have to press one, to speak to someone that I cannot understand. It started when you got drunk, and ran over a family and killed them, when you were without a license, insurance and then you ran back to your country. It started when my children started getting exposed to diseases that were no longer active in the US, but came back with you. I do not hate any race, but I resent illegal latinos because of their behavior. I do not see any illegal Irish, Chinese, Japanese, Hindu, Pakistani, Canadian, or Portugese carrying on in this manner...know why? Because they are working to blend in to the melting pot we call America, not knock it off its burner. 'Nuff Said

10-31-2007, 02:17 PM	#4
chicago_bull Piggy Bank Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 60 Rep Power: 6	why don't you inform yourself before giving an opinion against immigration? illegals are not immigrants. Also, since so many legal latinos support the illegals, I have no use for either group.

10-31-2007, 02:17 PM	#5
Vietleeurorse Greenhorn Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 28 Rep Power: 5	why don't you inform yourself before giving an opinion against immigration? Most of us are very well informed. Just because you do not understand what we are saying does not mean we are incorrect in our opinions. Yes, it can be difficult to immigrate, as it should be, this insures that only good, honest, law abiding people that want to become US citizens are allowed admittance. Peace

10-31-2007, 02:17 PM	#8
taxguru Greenhorn Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 29 Rep Power: 6	why don't you inform yourself before giving an opinion against immigration? because hate comes from ignorance not being well informed...

10-31-2007, 02:17 PM	#9
wiezly Greenhorn Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 30 Rep Power: 6	why don't you inform yourself before giving an opinion against immigration? I've lived in areas of America where we are bombarded with illegals my whole life. I think maybe it's YOU who need to inform yourself. Legal immigration is fine, and good for America. Illegal trespassing is NOT.

10-31-2007, 02:17 PM	#10
Vitovt Piggy Bank Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 56 Rep Power: 6	why don't you inform yourself before giving an opinion against immigration? Born here, legal or not, if you knew anything about our immigration problem, you would not have the audacity to say we have to change OUR immigration laws. Until the sell-outs got involved, our immigration level was approximately 175,000 per year. Our present immigration level is over one MILLION LEGAL immigrants per year, and has been so, for quite some time. So much for it not being easy for people to come to this country legally, and stay. (HMMM. Where else in the world lets people come and stay, in those numbers or anything close to them?) Because of our obligations to the LEGAL IMMIGRANTS WE HAVE INVITED TO STAY, our natural resources and finances are stretched beyond anything we have ever known in this , and especially, ANY OTHER country. For instance, the state of California (which has no water) is OBLIGATED IN PERPETUITY (look the word up--it means FOREVER) to build ONE NEW SCHOOL PER DAY, just to take care of the expected population of new LEGAL aliens' children and grandchildren, etc.,etc.. it is already legally required to provide for. Further bad news shows that, thanks to our country's citizens' interests and environment being put up for sale by the pols and suits, not only are US citizens and LEGAL aliens now at DEAD-HEAT numbers (almost even in our country): We have to add the number of ILLEGALS who are here, and the repercussions of their presence upon our resources and environment, AND their confused, INVITED relatives and friends, who shout in the street that Uncle Sam is not a good enough host, as they dine at our table. Don't pull out the old, "they're just doing work you don't want to do" card. If it weren't for the fact I had seventeen uninvited , hidden guests in my attic, with the assistance of some of their invited-guest relatives, I wouldn't have had to build such a huge sewage system, in the first place. My heart aches for the immigrant fleeing unfair treatment, but, immigration drains the best of a country, and does nothing to stop the problems countries face. We can't take in everyone in the world, as hard as we have tried to, in the past thirty years, but stop bashing us. It is not hatred that drives us, but the audacity of those who scream to let the thievery continue, the instinct of self-preservation, the right and holy obligation to protect or dwindling resources, which belong to the children who are this country's citizens and natives, to care for, and our own future, to which you and your kind do not seem to think we are entitled .

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